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[quote] On 13-06-2008 11:22, Armand wrote: >> I could see no other way of getting the pick Well, I can think of several ways of getting an item from someone without killing them (steal, summon, push them off a cliff, and several others that I won't reveal). But I think the question you should be asking yourself is, why did you need the pick? (you're not supposed to answer that, just give it some thought). >> Both Leak and JB were doted upon and soon back in the game at spellbinder and superhero respectively. This seemed fair to me though I would not have complained had they been restored to an even higher level. I disagree. Whilst I can appreciate a wiz feeling sorry for Leak who is basically a newbie sorc who got team killed while afk for an item that isn't essential for anything, Jamesbond was a necro who was killed fair and square by a champion. I consider Jamesbond to be one of my favourite people on MUD, but that doesn't stop me thinking that restores shouldn't be handed out just because someone has died (unless the death is unfair somehow). Actually I think restoring someone who has been PKed is very unfair to the PKer who ends up being robbed of his kill. With that said, I believe you are slightly wrong about what happened. It is my understanding that JB was given some points to around superhero, decided to TS, and got lucky. (EDIT: just noticed you did actually say he was restored to superhero. Sorry). >> At that time I concluded that Greasypete was not a wiz but a mortal. Why would a wiz restore anyone to kill them again? Wizzes do not use wiz powers to influence the game, and then play mortal in the same set (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, wizzes). So your question doesn't make any sense as Greasypete was not the person handing out restores. I'm not going to speculate here on whether or not Greasypete is a wizmort, and I don't think its relevant to anything anyway, as wizmorts play within the confines of the same game mechanics and rules as everyone else. >> Sadly, JB was extremely upset by this continual bullying by an obviously very experienced player and announced he was leaving the game permanently. This does indeed make me sad and I really hope he returns. However, I do not consider that I was bullying anyone last night (it was me that got the second kill on JB, and the second flee on Royston). When I first headed north it was indeed to avenge Leak, albeit not in a personal way (i.e. I was playing within the game, not acting on some RL annoyance or anything... some people take things too seriously!). However Greasypete beat me to that. I killed Jamesbond simply because I didn't think the restore was fair (and again this was nothing personal to Jamesbond). >> Having said that, I realise that there are no rules about PK?ing during a bash. Yes, it is perfectly normal. I don't know why some players have this idea that they're untouchable in a bash. I personally rarely pk during bashes, but unfortunately some people take advantage of the perceived "safeness" of bashes to score points with the hope that they won't be PKed. So whilst you'll normally find me either bashing or sitting in the tearoom on a Thursday evening, I'm also quite happy to PK if I have a reason. Occasionally I'll do it just because I feel like it, and I think its healthy for the game for players to not have this 100% expectation that a bash is safe. I don't PK newbies, so I don't think I'm in much danger making people quit, although sadly last night it appears that I did exactly that. >> in a safe place under the well. If it was a safe room, how did you kill him? ----------------------------------------------------------- Anyway, I think the most important thing here is that we seem to have a lost a player who is well liked. Its my sincere hope that he returns.
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