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[quote] On 26-11-2009 12:00, royston wrote: First of all, we must none of us fall into the trap in believing that the world of MUD is a democracy, It never has been and never will be. The forum is a place where we can exchange views but there is no reason to expect those views to be acted upon and change the way this world is run. This is especially so where there is no consensus amongst us. And there is no consensus in this case. The problem with deciding whether or not someone?s words and general behaviour is insulting or abusive towards another player is subjective. This opinion varies generally, not only during the course of time (what was accepted as humorous 50 years ago is now considered non-pc), but also from place to place (Americans are far more likely to feel the need to complain about some careless remark than the English. This a matter of culture). But what I have always been led to believe is that it is the opinion (the genuine opinion) of the person on the receiving end of the remarks that matters. If they find it insulting or abusive - then it is. The person making the remarks saying that it was only a joke, for instance, makes not an iota of difference (even if that was genuine). This makes it incredibly difficult for those in authority to make a judgement and decide whether what was said was offensive in the first place and to the extent of punishment in the second. For this reason a great many warnings are usually given first. And it also usually happens that things are left to deteriorate until there is no doubt. One good way of ensuring that any punitive action is reasonable is to spread the judgement over a number of people. A board rather than a single person. If we are to believe the Wizzes, and I can see no reason why we should not, this was a joint decision between them as to taking action and the extent of it. We are also told that plenty of warnings were issued first. It is unfortunate that the appearance of a visitor should be broadcast as it might result in a life ban from the game. However there is not a shred of evidence, that I can see, that this was the player who was banned. It could easily be some malicious person pretending to be him to cause more trouble. I can see the guest facility being withdrawn. I think this is a left over from the time we were charged to play and it enabled a visitor to have a taste of a very restricted game free of charge. In two and a half years the only guests I have come across are seasoned players having ?a bit of fun? in the Tearoom. The loss of guest facility would not be the end of the world but it would be a shame. There was also a suggestion these problems encountered in this MUD are continuing in BL. If this has happened it is totally wrong. We must confine our own feuds and vendettas here and not transfer them to other MUDs. Lastly no one is allowed to write a longer thread than me! [/quote]
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